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iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit

Well, that came as something of a surprise!

I finally got round to pensioning off my Nokia N70 last week and replacing it with an iPhone 3G. Now, I'm no disciple of all things Apple, but the iPhone appealed to me for a number of basic reasons; it does lots of things that I like, it does them mostly quite well and it looks nice.

There were two potential deal-breakers for me, though. The first was that I didn't want an iPhone unless it supported 3G; of course, Apple addressed that with the launch of the iPhone 3G. The second, I was much more sceptical about. It had to work with the Nokia 616 handsfree kit in my car. Now, it was reasonable for me to be sceptical. Firstly, the Nokia 616 doesn't seem to play very well with many of Nokia's own phones! It was only a couple of weeks ago that I managed to get the contacts from my N70 downloaded onto the 616. People who had tried the original iPhone with the 616 had had no success at all, from what I could find. Given that there was still plenty of (perfectly justified) moaning about the Bluetooth implementation on the iPhone 3G, I had no reason to believe that would be any different.

The only practical way for me to find out was to take the car to my local O2 shop and get one of the sales staff to try it. So I did. It took a while but eventually we managed to pair the phone and the car kit. However, it wouldn't download the contacts. Given that the iPhone doesn't support voice dialling, it meant that there was no way you could legally make a call while on the move, but receiving them was no problem at all. That was near enough for me, so I signed the paperwork and walked out with an 8GB model.

After some more faffing about later on, I was shocked to find that when I paired my own phone to the 616, it downloaded the contacts quite successfully.

It would be nice if voice dialling was supported, but other than that, it's working great.

So, I've had a week of fun with my new toy and I'm very, very impressed. I can't wait to see what Apple do with the next version!


Posted Jul 29 2008, 05:33 PM by Steve Morgan

Comments

Kukipapa wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Wed, Aug 13 2008 19:23

What about the original iPhone?

Steve Morgan wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Wed, Aug 13 2008 22:36

I'm sorry, but I can't say one way or the other with the original iPhone.

Certainly, all the previous reports I ame across suggested that it would not. However, maybe if it's upgraded with the version 2.0 firmware, it will work?

My experience with the Nokia 616 and the iPhone 3G are based purely on practical experimentation. I don't have access to an original iPhone, so I can't check for you.

The Nokia 616 is getting on a bit, now, and while it's well featured, I don't think I'd recommend it as a new purchase. If you're looking for a new car kit to use with an iPhone, I'd suggest looking elsewhere.

If, on the other hand, you have (or want) a Nokia 616, why not go the whole hog and upgrade to an iPhone 3G? ;-)

Giles wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Fri, Sep 12 2008 7:48

I've managed to pair my iPhone 3G with the Nokia 616 but I get a general error on the 616 when trying to download contacts. Did you do anything special to get this to work? Do I need to upgrade my 616's firmware?

My iPhone gets it's contacts from Exchange so I don't know if this makes a difference?

Steve Morgan wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Fri, Sep 12 2008 9:24

Hi Giles,

The first time I tried it, outside the O2 shop, I had the same problem.

I didn't do anything particularly special to get it to work, though I did delete the existing pairing from the 616.

Re-downloading the contacts has worked consistently, since.

I wouldn't expect the fact that your contacts originated in Exchange to make any difference, though I suppose it's always possible that there is some extra data that is tripping up the 616. Can you delete your contacts, create one manually as a test, then re-sync your contacts afterwards?

As far as I know, it's not possible to update the firmware in the 616 yourself, though it may be possible to have it done through a Nokia Service Centre. However, the latest firmware version that I've come across (in my, admittedly, limited travels) was from 2006.

Let me know how you get on, so I can keep this thread relevant.

Giles wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Sat, Sep 13 2008 11:44

I tried it again and it worked! Works perfectly - obviously just needed a good old fashioned reboot.

Thanks for your article about this - it was good to know it was possible so I didnt spend hours labouring in vain!

Steve Morgan wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Sat, Sep 13 2008 14:20

Hey, that's good news, indeed.

It's good to know it's been validated by somebody else.

Thanks for letting me know, Giles.

kanak wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Fri, Mar 6 2009 16:20

Hi Steve,

Wonder if this blog is still active.You Seem to know a bit about the 616 whcih I am thinking of having installed. Can you tell me about it?

Kanak

Steve Morgan wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Thu, Mar 19 2009 10:50

Hi Kanak,

Well, I wouldn't claim to be anything of an expert. What do you want to know?

The 616 is good, but it's a pretty old piece of kit. I bought it nearly two years ago to compliment my Nokia N70 and it was getting a little long in the tooth then. It wasn't fully functional with the N70, despite Nokia's claims on their website, due to software imcompatibilities. I was just lucky that it works well with the iPhone 3G.

While it works for me, I'm not sure I'd recommend it as a new purchase these days. Nokia evidently aren't actively developing it and who's to say it will work with the next phone you buy?

John wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Mon, Jun 15 2009 12:36

Can anyone help me, I have had my 616 for quite a while now and was going to sell the car and keep this for my new one but guess what I still have the car.Any can i use this with my blackberry storm for I do not want to go out and get this fitted if it will not work. Thanks in advance John

Martin wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Fri, Jun 26 2009 21:29

My 616 (bought in October 2005, software versions dated May 2005) will pair with my Blackberry Bold in either Handsfree or SIM Access Profile -- the latter with a bit of persuasion. That's the good news. The bad news is that in either mode the Bluetooth connection gets dropped after maybe 30 seconds, and it won't re-establish. I found out today that there is more recent firmware for the 616 so if I can get that installed without shelling out too much I'll give it another try. I'm not too bothered because my Nokia E51 has always played nicely and the Blackberry's the work phone.

The other snag with the Bold, and I guess the Storm will be the same, is that it will only download the SIM contacts to the 616 (assuming you get a connection for long enough!)

I found that the iPhone 3GS would pair nicely with the 616 in Handsfree mode, and also download all the contacts. The progress bar didn't work, but it went back to the menu afterwards and all the contacts were there. I'm not a fan of the Handsfree mode on the 616 (no network name or strength, for instance) ... SAP is much nicer. I gather other car kits do a better job with Handsfree mode.

Steve Morgan wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Fri, Jun 26 2009 22:22

Thanks very much for the extra info, Martin!

I presume you're going to have to take your 616 to a Nokia Service Centre to have the firmware upgraded. Would you mind keeping us updated if and when you do?

Thanks for the info on the 3GS. That'll be particularly useful when I get around to changing mine, soon.

Martin wrote re: iPhone 3G works with Nokia 616 car kit
on Tue, Jul 7 2009 18:07

Sorry for not noticing your reply earlier, Steve!

Yes, if I ever get around to getting the 616 firmware upgraded I'll let you know what the effects are. (I wonder if it makes Handsfree mode any better, though I doubt it.)

I ended up taking the 3GS back ... it was nice, but it didn't quite do it for me. The E51 is going to soldier on for a little while longer!

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